a couple more tests first; I don't like the 11.7v reading. Where did you get that reading?
And check voltage at the spade connector on the solenoid when cranking, and also voltage at the lower stud on the solenoid when cranking (that's the connection from the solenoid to the starter motor).
How to remove starter?
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baggins987
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baggins987
19 minutes to remove the starter, including collecting all the tools. I think I'm closing in on that 45 minute record. 
It occurs to me that I've spent more time underneath this car than I have driving it.
Well, back to the auto supply store tomorrow to get a replacement for the replacement for the replacement starter...
It occurs to me that I've spent more time underneath this car than I have driving it.
Well, back to the auto supply store tomorrow to get a replacement for the replacement for the replacement starter...
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Spyderbuddy
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So Cal Mark
you can't bypass the original solenoid. Adding a Ford solenoid is a trick to increase voltage to the spade terminal on the original solenoid. It's just adding a relay to put battery voltage to the spade terminal rather than ign switch voltage (which can be low if you have a voltage drop in the system, usually from a poor connection).
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Spyderbuddy
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baggins987
I thought you replaced the starter on the solenoid with a Ford solenoid.
I have a rebuilt-defective starter (long story) that just needs a new solenoid. I can get a new one at IAP but it's almost the same price as the rebuilt starter I got (the one that works). According to another online parts store there is an AC Delco solenoid for it, cheaper, but I'm trying to find one locally to avoid the shipping charges (seems silly to pay $15 shipping for a $25 part). No success yet though.
Note: I would recommend NOT using rebuilt starters from a company named either Orange County or Precision (what the parts store called them) or Platinum (what was on the box) - 2 starters, neither one lasted more than an hour.
The other lesson I learned painfully was: Don't turn in your core until after you have the replacement installed and it is working!
I have a rebuilt-defective starter (long story) that just needs a new solenoid. I can get a new one at IAP but it's almost the same price as the rebuilt starter I got (the one that works). According to another online parts store there is an AC Delco solenoid for it, cheaper, but I'm trying to find one locally to avoid the shipping charges (seems silly to pay $15 shipping for a $25 part). No success yet though.
Note: I would recommend NOT using rebuilt starters from a company named either Orange County or Precision (what the parts store called them) or Platinum (what was on the box) - 2 starters, neither one lasted more than an hour.
The other lesson I learned painfully was: Don't turn in your core until after you have the replacement installed and it is working!
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baggins987
I thought you replaced the starter on the solenoid with a Ford solenoid.
I have a rebuilt-defective starter (long story) that just needs a new solenoid. I can get a new one at IAP but it's almost the same price as the rebuilt starter I got (the one that works). According to another online parts store there is an AC Delco solenoid for it, cheaper, but I'm trying to find one locally to avoid the shipping charges (seems silly to pay $15 shipping for a $25 part). No success yet though.
Note: I would recommend NOT using rebuilt starters from a company named either Orange County or Precision (what the parts store called them) or Platinum (what was on the box) - 2 starters, neither one lasted more than an hour.
The other lesson I learned painfully was: Don't turn in your core until after you have the replacement installed and it is working!
I have a rebuilt-defective starter (long story) that just needs a new solenoid. I can get a new one at IAP but it's almost the same price as the rebuilt starter I got (the one that works). According to another online parts store there is an AC Delco solenoid for it, cheaper, but I'm trying to find one locally to avoid the shipping charges (seems silly to pay $15 shipping for a $25 part). No success yet though.
Note: I would recommend NOT using rebuilt starters from a company named either Orange County or Precision (what the parts store called them) or Platinum (what was on the box) - 2 starters, neither one lasted more than an hour.
The other lesson I learned painfully was: Don't turn in your core until after you have the replacement installed and it is working!
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baggins987
I thought you replaced the starter on the solenoid with a Ford solenoid.
I have a rebuilt-defective starter (long story) that just needs a new solenoid. I can get a new one at IAP but it's almost the same price as the rebuilt starter I got (the working one). According to another online parts store there is an AC Delco solenoid for it, cheaper, but I'm trying to find one locally to avoid the shipping charges (seems silly to pay $15 shipping for a $25 part). No success yet though.
Note: I would recommend NOT using rebuilt starters from a company named either Orange County or Precision (what the parts store called them) or Platinum (what was on the box) - 2 starters, neither one lasted more than an hour.
The other lesson I learned painfully was: Don't turn in your core until after you have the replacement installed and it is working!
I have a rebuilt-defective starter (long story) that just needs a new solenoid. I can get a new one at IAP but it's almost the same price as the rebuilt starter I got (the working one). According to another online parts store there is an AC Delco solenoid for it, cheaper, but I'm trying to find one locally to avoid the shipping charges (seems silly to pay $15 shipping for a $25 part). No success yet though.
Note: I would recommend NOT using rebuilt starters from a company named either Orange County or Precision (what the parts store called them) or Platinum (what was on the box) - 2 starters, neither one lasted more than an hour.
The other lesson I learned painfully was: Don't turn in your core until after you have the replacement installed and it is working!
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baggins987
I thought you replaced the starter on the solenoid with a Ford solenoid.
I have a rebuilt-defective starter (long story) that just needs a new solenoid. I can get a new one at IAP but it's almost the same price as the rebuilt starter I got (the working one). According to another online parts store there is an AC Delco solenoid for it, cheaper, but I'm trying to find one locally to avoid the shipping charges (seems silly to pay $15 shipping for a $25 part). No success yet though.
Note: I would recommend NOT using rebuilt starters from a company named either Orange County or Precision (what the parts store called them) or Platinum (what was on the box) - 2 starters, neither one lasted more than an hour.
The other lesson I learned painfully was: Don't turn in your core until after you have the replacement installed and it is working!
I have a rebuilt-defective starter (long story) that just needs a new solenoid. I can get a new one at IAP but it's almost the same price as the rebuilt starter I got (the working one). According to another online parts store there is an AC Delco solenoid for it, cheaper, but I'm trying to find one locally to avoid the shipping charges (seems silly to pay $15 shipping for a $25 part). No success yet though.
Note: I would recommend NOT using rebuilt starters from a company named either Orange County or Precision (what the parts store called them) or Platinum (what was on the box) - 2 starters, neither one lasted more than an hour.
The other lesson I learned painfully was: Don't turn in your core until after you have the replacement installed and it is working!
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baggins987
I thought you replaced the starter on the solenoid with a Ford solenoid.
I have a rebuilt-defective starter (long story) that just needs a new solenoid. I can get a new one at IAP but it's almost the same price as the rebuilt starter I got (the working one). According to another online parts store there is an AC Delco solenoid for it, cheaper, but I'm trying to find one locally to avoid the shipping charges (seems silly to pay $15 shipping for a $25 part). No success yet though.
Note: I would recommend NOT using rebuilt starters from a company named either Orange County or Precision (what the parts store called them) or Platinum (what was on the box) - 2 starters, neither one lasted more than an hour.
The other lesson I learned painfully was: Don't turn in your core until after you have the replacement installed and it is working!
I have a rebuilt-defective starter (long story) that just needs a new solenoid. I can get a new one at IAP but it's almost the same price as the rebuilt starter I got (the working one). According to another online parts store there is an AC Delco solenoid for it, cheaper, but I'm trying to find one locally to avoid the shipping charges (seems silly to pay $15 shipping for a $25 part). No success yet though.
Note: I would recommend NOT using rebuilt starters from a company named either Orange County or Precision (what the parts store called them) or Platinum (what was on the box) - 2 starters, neither one lasted more than an hour.
The other lesson I learned painfully was: Don't turn in your core until after you have the replacement installed and it is working!
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So Cal Mark
I'd suggest searching the yellow pages (does anyone do that anymore?) and finding a local custom rebuilder you can deal directly with. Most production rebuilders only replace the failed part and reuse everything else.