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fiat218
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has any one use the programmable fuel injection
I should point out, this is not for me, some one I know in my town has a fiat ,we became friends, he is getting his engine rebuild, I believe it a 82 ,2.0 fuel injection,
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It might be best to find out what your friend intends to do with the car. If they are going to autocross or track the car there may be some merit in going with a programmable FI set-up. If he's rebuilding it for street or hoping to get a little more performance there are other much less expensive upgrades (ignition, cams, head work, etc.) that he can do that provides a better bang for the buck.
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It street, and yes he is aware of the cost, he wondering if any one has any experience with it
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I have Megasquirt on my 81. A great learning experience and I feel it is a requirement for my future forced induction plans.

The build and instal were a steep learning curve. The biggest thing I learned was how good the original Bosch set up is.

As with the earlier post, i feel that some serious engine upgrades will be require to out perform the original set up.

Happy to answer any questions that I can.

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IMO it's not worth the effort unless the car will be turbo or supercharged.
On a naturally aspirated car it's a lot easier to bolt on a larger single or dual carbs. It's a huge pain to make programmable EFI work on a car with hot cams that has to be tractable on the street. Most people who I talked to still had issues after years of messing with their FI. Jeff and I gave up after 2 years and bolted on dual carbs. Car made more power...

The stock FI will be fine up to ~130 HP.
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it will have a mild cam and the car is already FI
so basically he is wasting his money?
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Put in a lightened flywheel for good bang for the buck.
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so here is what i am getting from the responds> the prrogramable FI is not worth the hassel.the money spent for a street car,regardless of the up grades of the engine . CORRECT?
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the progamable FI would really not be worth while unless your into a racing engine.etc
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so here is what i am getting from the responds> the programmable FI is not worth the hassel.the money spent for a street car,regardless of the up grades of the engine . CORRECT?
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the progamable FI would really not be worth while unless your into a racing engine.etc

Not exactly.

My thoughts are that a radical street engine or a turbo/supercharged engine would benefit from programmable injection.

I feel the stock Bosch system can be made to perform well with reasonable street modifications, such as the ones you referenced above.

You cannot beat the sound of twin carbs on a fiat!!
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Ok, thanks, I did relay to him what was said, so he is going to get one, it coming from Vicks
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Hey Jim, did your friend ever buy the programmable fuel injection system?

I'd love to hear about it if he did.
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