new suspension from AR

[4uall]

I notice lots of people making mention of putting on extension bars I never did (may have been an error) yet, I was still able to remove the springs without any additional cables, twine, chain etc. Just my 2 cents which in US funds equals nothing currently

Did use long ratchet though





and a jack underneath

[lanciahf]

Error? Nah you probably found a sweet spot, next time I'll try it without the pipe extension. I got so used to using it.

[4uall]

The rears are even easier (watch your brake lines) just lift one side and remove the opposite

[bradartigue]

They'd probably spend all day trying to find the ECU.

Really, then actually made cars that ran without ECU's?????

The early cars had engine control units its just that they were spread out and were not computerized. A throttle cable along with a few dash pots here, a thermal switch there and a few switches elsewhere to tell when your foot was off the throttle and you had engine control.

I have two fuel injected cars without an ECU or any electronics. One has a mechanical brain, SPICA, which is not as mysterious as Alfa wanted people to think, and the other is Bosch K-Jetronic, which mechanically measures air against a calibrated flap. Both work quite well, though the SPICA has a couple of entirely too fragile parts (thermostatic actuator is one). K-Jetronic is solid until it leaks, then you have a 78psi fuel leak.

[kevsem65]

Ok I'm stuck on the sway bar how do I get the center link brackets apart? The new bar came with end brackets but only center bushings are they pressed together? If so how do I separate them?

[fiatfactory]

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[kevsem65]

if anyone has put on one of the one inch sway bars from any of the vendors I could use some help. it comes with four bushings but only two brackets are they center or end? they don't really look like they fit either way. is the correct way to break apart the center brackets and clamp them together and then muscle it all up?? plus then just crank the end links on?

[njoconnor]

Be careful on the muscle; I snapped off a control arm stud that way.

I bought new 2 piece center brackets from AR. I also struggled with the re-install of the sway bar. Best advice was to raise/lower the lower control arm as needed with a floor jack until the brackets and studs lined up, with center brackets on loosely (nuts just turned 1-2 turns). A lot of prying, pushing, and some interesting words, and suddenly it was on (stock bar).

Dont over tighten; 14 ftlbs, IIRC.....

Neil

[kevsem65]

I've already taken the stock bar off then reinstalled it after I realized the 1" bar was not going to be an easy bolt in job. Is the advantage worth the hassle? Any tricks or tips ? It really seems like I'm trying to make something work that isn't really designed to.

[fiatfactory]

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[So Cal Mark]

rebushing the bar with denser bushings will effectly stiffen it, but it's not the same as a larger bar with stiff bushings. The Addco bars come with center brackets, not the end brackets

[kevsem65]

Ok thx mark, do the new center brackets bolt flat to the frame or are they extended down like the original. The one I have are flat and it looks like it makes the sway too high.

[buckspet]

hey kid did you do the springs yet? I bought a spring compressor, you can borrow it...give me a call. As far as difficulty, it's actually easy, especially if you work on muscle cars or medium/full size American cars. these fiats are tiny in comparison..i'm constantly laughing to myself by the small dimensions I DID THE WHOLE FRONT END AND REAR{MINUS} REAR UPPER AND LOWER CONNECTING ARMS IN LESS THE 2 DAYS. I've ALREADY TALKED WITH YOU ABOUT THE MAJOR IMPROVEMENT IN HANDELING. {INCLUDING} ALL 4 DISCS,BRAKES AND LINES KYB SHOCKS ON ALL 4 CORNERS. HAVE FUN THATS WHATS COOL ABOUT DOING IT YOURSELF...VERY REWARDING AND SELF SATISFING.

[kevsem65]

Lol! Thx dad! I'll take the compressor whenever you are working near my job.