tubular control arms
- azruss
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Re: tubular control arms
caster is adjusted by placing shims behind the mounting rod on the lower A-arm. Shim on the front bolt increases caster, by moving the lower ball joint toward the back of the car, thus rotating the angle between the top and bottom ball joint. This also changes camber as well. once caster is set, then camber can be adjusted by adding or subtracting the same thickness of shim from both the front and back mounting stud.
- giuliot60
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Re: tubular control arms
Oh OK. That makes sense. I didn't know there was that much play in there. How many degrees can you go in either direction?azruss wrote:caster is adjusted by placing shims behind the mounting rod on the lower A-arm. Shim on the front bolt increases caster, by moving the lower ball joint toward the back of the car, thus rotating the angle between the top and bottom ball joint. This also changes camber as well. once caster is set, then camber can be adjusted by adding or subtracting the same thickness of shim from both the front and back mounting stud.
Giulio/Charlotte
1st car '75 pistachio 128 sedan
Owned a '74 Spider, '68 Firebird, a '65 GTO convertible, and a customized '74 650 Yamaha
Currently own an '81 Turbo (removed) Spider
1st car '75 pistachio 128 sedan
Owned a '74 Spider, '68 Firebird, a '65 GTO convertible, and a customized '74 650 Yamaha
Currently own an '81 Turbo (removed) Spider
Ladas are not Fiats
Yet another item Csaba and I looked at years ago and decided not to sell as a direct fit for your Spider. The tubular arms being offered by "another vendor" were not engineered for the 124 chassis as others have already pointed out. Although Robert Vick and I discussed producing tubular A-arms designed for the 124 many times, it was something which we never produced.... It pains me to see that people are considering these Lada arms for use on the 124
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- manoa matt
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Re: tubular control arms
by So Cal Mark on Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:29 pm
"I have tubular replacement arms being built now and should have them available in March. They should be priced well under what Vicks is offering. Vicks arms are sourced from Ladas, my arms are built specifically for the Spider"
Mark, any updates on the replacement arms?
"I have tubular replacement arms being built now and should have them available in March. They should be priced well under what Vicks is offering. Vicks arms are sourced from Ladas, my arms are built specifically for the Spider"
Mark, any updates on the replacement arms?
Re: tubular control arms
the mfg came back with a proposal that is way too expensive so I'm working on another mfg currently
Re: tubular control arms
Looking at updates on Vick's website it seems like their arms are good for race cars, not so much for street cars. I am still thinking about replacing mine if it is affordable.
- engineerted
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Re: tubular control arms
Tobi,
The "Good for Race Cars" statement is very open ended. It depends on what type of racing you are doing. Most custom or after market items like this will state "for racing only" This is legal for not tested for use on public steets. I am not saying that these are unsafe, but if you are going to spend the money on tubular control arms, get ones that have an adjustable upper arm for camber and caster that eliminates those dam shims!
Ted
The "Good for Race Cars" statement is very open ended. It depends on what type of racing you are doing. Most custom or after market items like this will state "for racing only" This is legal for not tested for use on public steets. I am not saying that these are unsafe, but if you are going to spend the money on tubular control arms, get ones that have an adjustable upper arm for camber and caster that eliminates those dam shims!
Ted
Ted
1978 124 Spider, Complete Restoration
1974 Fiat 124 F Production Race car
1978 124 Spider, Complete Restoration
1974 Fiat 124 F Production Race car
- 4uall
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Re: tubular control arms
Tobi wrote:Looking at updates on Vick's website it seems like their arms are good for race cars, not so much for street cars. I am still thinking about replacing mine if it is affordable.
I would strongly urge you to select another vendor.
Jay
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Re: tubular control arms
What is wrong with Vicks, may I asked4uall wrote:Tobi wrote:Looking at updates on Vick's website it seems like their arms are good for race cars, not so much for street cars. I am still thinking about replacing mine if it is affordable.
I would strongly urge you to select another vendor.
Jim
East Grand Forks MN
1970 Fiat Spider BS1 ( FOR SALE
1969 124 AS Spider
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East Grand Forks MN
1970 Fiat Spider BS1 ( FOR SALE
1969 124 AS Spider
2017 Abrath
2018 Alfa Romeo 4c Spider
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Re: tubular control arms
That's ok, I got no beef with them,
Each to there own
Each to there own
Jim
East Grand Forks MN
1970 Fiat Spider BS1 ( FOR SALE
1969 124 AS Spider
2017 Abrath
2018 Alfa Romeo 4c Spider
East Grand Forks MN
1970 Fiat Spider BS1 ( FOR SALE
1969 124 AS Spider
2017 Abrath
2018 Alfa Romeo 4c Spider
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Re: tubular control arms
Any news on these tubular control arms ?So Cal Mark wrote:the mfg came back with a proposal that is way too expensive so I'm working on another mfg currently
Re: tubular control arms
sadly no, I haven't been able to find a mfg that is willing to take on the project unless we order more than 1000 pieces
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Re: tubular control arms
Have you had any experience with those VFTS Lada arms .So Cal Mark wrote:sadly no, I haven't been able to find a mfg that is willing to take on the project unless we order more than 1000 pieces
Could they be a possible source to manufacture them as their suspension arms are quite affordable to purchase .
Re: tubular control arms
the Lada arms put caster at 10 degrees positive when installed on a Spider and that's way too much caster