Clutch Pedal Spring

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yap123
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Location: Irvine, CA

Clutch Pedal Spring

Post by yap123 »

Howdy,

After shifting and releasing the clutch pedal, I hear a snapping sound of the clutch pedal spring. The sound is as if one were snapping a rubber band but the spring instead.

I don't seem to get the snapping sound when the car is turned off, only while I'm driving.

My clutch was replaced about 2,000 miles ago. And the clutch cable was replaced about 500 miles. It was recently adjusted too. I have sprayed WD 40 around the spring area.

Any thoughts? Does the spring need to be replaced? Car has 43k miles.

Thanks,
Clint
mbouse

Post by mbouse »

OK, you are talking about the spring that hooks onto the pedal with the elongated "S" hook, and not the spring that hooks between the transmission housing and the OTHER end of the clutch cable at the tranny.

I say that because many are unaware that this clutch cable was designed to have two springs attached, one at each end.

The clutch pedal spring does not NEED to be attached, but it does make it easier for the pedal to return to the engaged position. it is a pedal return spring. it is not going to aid in engaging the clutch.

And, the reason so many are left off when cables are replaced is because the spring is a PITA to reinstall. i have a simple solution, that even my tranny guy has used. get a roll of pennies and load up the spring coils with pennies until it stretches to something long enough for installation. do as much of the penny loading on your workbench as possible to avoid standing on your head under the dash with your elbow in your mouth. the first time you depress the pedal, most of the pennies will fall out.

i think i know the noise you are referring to. it is not that big of a deal. as long as the spring is properly installed, you'll eventually get used to the noise and almost never hear it. spraying it with lube will have little or no effect. you are adding and removing tension from the coils, not rubbing it against another piece of steel.

i don't ever recall hearing of a clutch pedal return spring breaking. i have heard of clutch pedals breaking. are you sure your pedal is not tearing or breaking where it hooks to the cable, or to the spring? this is a common issue, and will strand you if left unresolved.
yap123
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Joined: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:39 am
Location: Irvine, CA

Post by yap123 »

Mike,

First thanks for the caps for the wiper stems. It adds a nice finish to the hood area.

I'm pretty sure the sound is coming from the interior and not the underside of the car.

Regarding the clutch pedal, Mark reinforced it last year.

I may remove the spring using your method. Without the spring, will the pedal go in the engage position at a slower rate or just hang lower to the floor?

Thanks,
Clint
ventura ace

Post by ventura ace »

Actually, there is a little more to it than Mike described. True, the big beefy spring at the clutch pedal can be elimated. If connected properly, it is dual purpose, and you can see how this would be the case if you study the attachment point closely. For the first part of the clutch pedal stroke, it is resisting the pushing from your foot, and trying to return the clutch pedal to it's 'up' position. At about 1/2 way through the pedal stroke, the direction of torque on the pedal changes, and the spring is then helping to push the pedal down. If you don't believe this, then disconnect the clutch cable underneath the car, and push the clutch pedal down to see what happens. After about 1/2 way down the pedal will go the rest of the way to the floor by itself, and you'll have to reach down an pull it on it to return to the 'up' position.

It's a bear to install, but once installed, it is a welcome aid for the clutch pedal motion.

alvon
mbouse

Post by mbouse »

Just for the reason that sooo much money went into its design, and because for the mechanicals, I am a purist at heart....I would recommend putting or keeping the spring in place.

If you are sure the pedal is reinforced and not tearing, then i suggest you are hearing a spring "groan" which is annoying, but nothing more.

and you are welcome for the caps. please send me a picture.

i still, living in the "Winter Wonderland", am curious as to why and how one can do without wiper blades. Do you keep them in the trunk, or doesn't it rain where you are at? i do not believe that removing the blades reduces wind drag by that much as to be noticible to any Spider driver.

sorry, Michigander is a no-understander. We have a saying here. Don't like the weather? Wait an hour, it will change.
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