Greetings from New Zealand

If you just registered, post a brief greeting in here.
Post Reply
alexGS

Greetings from New Zealand

Post by alexGS »

Hello all,
Seems my registration was successful - I didn't receive an email, but my name/password works :)

I've owned a Spider for a couple of weeks now. It joins a long history of '74 128 Coupe, '82 126, '86 Uno 60, '89 Tipo DGT, '88 Croma i.e., '87 Lancia Thema V6, '88 Uno Turbo (I still have this one), '92 Alfa 164, '88 Bertone X1/9, '81 X1/9, '03 Stilo Abarth, '01 Punto Sporting (still have this too), '03 Alfa 166, and '91 Alfa 164 (still have that, it's my favourite...)

So I'm qualified to own a FIAT and at the age of 29 - still single - hopefully still have time to give it my best :D

Image
Image

Image
Image

The car was imported in 1990 from California - it's a 1978 and originally had an 1800 motor. It was converted to right-hand-drive by the FIAT specialist in Te Awamutu, along with a handful of others. This particular car received a 131 steering rack. The dashboard panels were reversed and the notch in the dashboard rail was filled/re-trimmed.

The first drive, I was blown away by how rigid the structure is, compared to a 2000 Alfa Romeo Spider. I was amazed at the headroom and visibility with the top up. The steering has a lovely demure quality to it, freed from the influence of FWD. I've owned the two X1/9s but never a car with the engine at the front, driving the rear wheels.

The colour is not the original, it is Honda City yellow. I think the original was Positano yellow, but strangely I can't find the chassis plate to check that. I'm only guessing by looking in through the vents on the scuttle!

The original owner in NZ kept the car for 20 years - and then sold it to me! So it's unusual to have a car with such a well-known local history. Recently it has had a 2L engine fitted - probably from a 132 - with twin downdraught Dellortos. The rear axle has been recently replaced too.

My first priority - having driven it here, there, and everywhere in the first few days! - is to rebuild the brakes, as occasionally the pedal sinks to the floor. The front left brake doesn't seem to work at all, and both the back brakes generate a large amount of dust. The right rear disc has just started scraping on something - either the pad or the caliper carrier, I'll find out tomorrow.

There are a few minor electrical problems, such as no reverse lights and no panel lights (the previous owner told me he'd bypassed the dimmer).

I would like to replace the gearbox bearings, or at least, get the gearbox apart so that I can check the condition of bearings and gears. The synchros are good (better than other 70s FIATs I've driven, anyway!) but any sort of forward movement is incredibly noisy at present. The oil is full right up to the fill plug.

Once my Spider is driving nicely, I'd like to take it off the road and take it all to pieces, do a full body restoration as a number of you guys are doing - I like those 'rotisserie' pics, very inspirational! I'm trying to decide between original Positano yellow, or cherry red.

Actually the body is good - there's signs of some trouble beside the headlights (large, slight bubbles) and there's some touched-up rust pitting in the seam on the rear deck (ahead of the luggage compartment lid, which has a luggage rack fitted).

Image
Image

I don't like the interior colours and most parts are cracked or split anyway. I'll probably get the seats retrimmed in a light beige locally, and re-trim the rest of the interior myself. But that's a long way off!


Thanks for reading and keep up those inspiring posts (sorry I can't remember names yet, one was argyhyztyou or something!) :D

Cheers,
-Alex
User avatar
kilrwail
Posts: 1100
Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:49 am
Your car is a: 1978 Fiat 124 Sport Spider
Location: Perth, Ontario

Re: Greetings from New Zealand

Post by kilrwail »

Welcome to the group Alex. You've been busy, having all those cars already. I got my first Fiat when I was 29 (also a '78) and still have it. The paint colour label should be on the inside of the trunk lid and the manufacturer's plate is probably now hidden by your brake booster, on the right side of the firewall. Have fun with all your projects! :)
_____________________________________________________________
Peter Brownhill

1978 Fiat 124 Sport Spider - original owner
1977 Porsche 911S - track car
2022 Ram 4 x 4 - hauler
PCA National Instructor and Motorsport Safety Foundation Level 2 Instructor
alexGS

Re: Greetings from New Zealand

Post by alexGS »

Thanks Peter!

I might take the brake booster out, in the process of replacing the master cylinder, and then I can have a better look for the type plate. I will look inside the trunk lid (I must try to use the majority terms here - see below ;)) although it's been painted in there, so the sticker might be history.

I remember on one of my FIATs the brake booster/servo filled up with brake fluid from a leaky master cylinder (sucked in by manifold vacuum). Someone kept topping up the fluid until the booster had a litre or two in it!

This is a great forum - a great group of properly motivated people. I must confess to being a little uncertain about terms such as 'convertible boot' and 'the front edge of the hood', which mean quite different things to me :) I've now realised that the convertible boot is what I'd call a tonneau cover, and the front edge of the hood is the front edge of the bonnet, not the convertible top front rail. I'm learning :D
mbouse

Re: Greetings from New Zealand

Post by mbouse »

alex, welcome. thanks so much for the complete introduction.

if the P.O. bypassed the dimmer switch correctly, you should have full strength dash lights. i wonder if the bypass was done correctly, or if the switch was just removed. connecting the two wires together should restore those gauge lights to full power.

of course, checking all the fuses, cleaning the contacts on the fuse panel, and cleaning / tightening the ground connections will help tremendously.
rlux4
Patron 2022
Patron 2022
Posts: 4211
Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:32 pm
Your car is a: 1982 2000 Spider
Location: Granite Falls, Wa

Re: Greetings from New Zealand

Post by rlux4 »

Welcome to the site Alex. Wow, here's a guy who knows what a Fiat is. Your description of the Spider is dead on. They really are a triumph of design. Oops, did I say triumph?
I enjoyed your introduction a lot, and good job getting pictures in for us.
Ron
Ron Luxmore
rlux2n2@gmail.com
'82 2000 Spider: after 26 years between Spiders.
baltobernie
Patron 2020
Patron 2020
Posts: 3466
Joined: Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:00 pm
Your car is a: 1973 Spider [sold]
Location: Baltimore, MD

Re: Greetings from New Zealand

Post by baltobernie »

Hello Alex, and welcome!

There was a question posted elsewhere on this site that you may be in a position to answer:

Which is the quicker car; the Fiat Spider or the Alfa Spider? Admitedly, yours is a smogged 1800, not a FI 2L, but what's been your experience?
alexGS

Re: Greetings from New Zealand

Post by alexGS »

baltobernie wrote:Hello Alex, and welcome!

There was a question posted elsewhere on this site that you may be in a position to answer:

Which is the quicker car; the Fiat Spider or the Alfa Spider? Admitedly, yours is a smogged 1800, not a FI 2L, but what's been your experience?
Well - firstly, these days mine is a never-smogged 2L with twin Dellortos and some hotter cams :D

Between the 2000 Alfa Romeo Spider and my FIAT Spider, no contest. Even the Twinspark 2L four of the Alfa is a gutsy little thing - the variable valve timing ensures good torque as well - and the suspension is much stiffer, wider tyres, plus it's FWD, which is what I'm comfortable with driving hard. There are V6 versions of the Spider and in 3.2L form, that's a frightening amount of power (250bhp) to put through the front wheels. I suspect that V6 Spiders are a bit too nose-heavy and probably dive over bumps, but I haven't driven a V6 Spider.

But I know that's not what you were asking :) You were thinking of the old Alfa Spider, which I haven't driven. Sorry! I'd pick my Spider - I understand that the body is more rigid, plus my Spider has a steering rack, so I think the steering would be more precise.

My Spider is not a fast car, but that's not what I bought it for. My idea of a fast car is my Alfa 164 - I absolutely love that car, cheap to buy these days, well-engineered, reliable, economical, comfortable, nicely balanced chassis, high level of grip, low weight, glorious sound, great styling proportions, doesn't look like a boy racer car, surprising performance... 0-60 in under eight seconds... runs rings around my Spider <flame suit on!> ;)
Last edited by alexGS on Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.
alexGS

Re: Greetings from New Zealand

Post by alexGS »

mbouse wrote:alex, welcome. thanks so much for the complete introduction.

if the P.O. bypassed the dimmer switch correctly, you should have full strength dash lights. i wonder if the bypass was done correctly, or if the switch was just removed. connecting the two wires together should restore those gauge lights to full power.

of course, checking all the fuses, cleaning the contacts on the fuse panel, and cleaning / tightening the ground connections will help tremendously.
Thanks Mike,
I'm expecting a mess in behind the dashboard, since there'll be extension wiring for the RHD conversion. Chances are, a crucial wire has just fallen off somewhere.

Seeing your signature reminded me - one of the first things I did was to replace the various bits of plastic and rubber grommets inside the gearshift lever extension, just fitted a new kit of parts - I don't know why that's so complicated in there! There's a lot of slack in the ball at the base of the lever, so I'll probably be ordering some new parts from Spiderpoint (or wherever's best).

I'm going to experiment with white LEDs for the instrument lighting - possibly inside the instrument itself mounted as a small flexible strip (12 LEDs) around the perimeter. For this car, I'm a firm believer in 'concealed mods', since it's not an original car, I won't be frightened to deviate from the original equipment.

Incidentally I just bought a ton of parts to rebuild the brake system of the Spider. Will start a new thread under 'general maintenance', though I probably won't be able to contribute anything that isn't already known ;) I'm reading up on the processes first.

-Alex
So Cal Mark

Re: Greetings from New Zealand

Post by So Cal Mark »

welcome, thanks for all of the information. Usually we have to drag it out of new members!
User avatar
Curly
Posts: 526
Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:09 am
Your car is a: 1968 AC Coupe and a 1976 CS1 Spider
Location: Gippsland - Victoria, Australia

Re: Greetings from New Zealand

Post by Curly »

G'day from across the Tasman Alex. You've sure had a impressive number and range of vehicles pass through your hands and yet you're still only 29 :shock: !! I presume you're located somewhere on the Nth Island, as the car was converted to RHD at Te Awamutu and there are no sheep in the pictures :lol:
Good luck with sorting out the wiring :roll:
alexGS

Re: Greetings from New Zealand

Post by alexGS »

How right you are, Curly, about the 'no sheep'! :D Not many people get that right, most people think all of NZ is more sheep than people... There really aren't many sheep in the North Island, it's mostly dairy. I'm in Hamilton.

I forgot to mention four FIAT Unos that I've owned - an Uno 70, two Uno 45s, and a second Uno 60, bringing the total to six Unos plus two that I've worked on for a friend (he's owned ten). :oops: It's mainly after seeing the restorations of those that other friends have said "you really ought to work on something worthwhile!"
Post Reply