Gas Tank Help 79 Fiat

Maintenance advice to keep your Spider in shape.
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CajunMike
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Gas Tank Help 79 Fiat

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So I decided to open my gas tank up to have a look. The gas has been stale in there for at least 10 years (car hasn't been started in 7 or so). Not a pretty sight! Gas smelled like paint thinner and there is surface rust on the inside of the tank and the sending unit is corroded. :( What is my next step? Is the gas tank a 2 part tank or is it a solid piece? Is it worth trying to clean it up and how do I go about doing this? Should I just plunk the $$ for a new one. Thanks in advance for any advice.
racydave

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One piece tank, it lifts out. I would siphon the old out first. The fill hose needs to come off, and stuff on the sender. There are treatments a radiator shop should be able to perform to coat the inside of the tank, and you might check into a new sender.
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Thanks Dave, any thoughts on the new gas tanks that either IAP or Vicks sells? I have no problem buying a new one if its not worth it to try to scrub up the old one. Im sure those guys at the Radiator shop will probably charge a small fortune for time and effort. Can I just get a fine wire brush in there and get the surface rust off. Maybe then shoot it with something like Wd 40 or something or a light aerosol oil? Or would this cause more rust?

And yes, a new sending unit is on the shopping list. The one in there now is a replacement anyway. Funny thing there, the original one kicked the bucket a long time ago. I priced a new one then went to the local junkyard to look for a used one. They had a nice example but wanted like $60 for it. :shock: I informed them that I could get a new one for $40 and if he would take $30 for it. He told me no! Can you believe that? Wanted a premium for a used part. Next time I hit the junkyard, ill be sure to have a parts catalog with me.
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Unfortunatly, once rust gets started, theres no way to stop it. The gasoline will disolve most home remedies. Id say, clean it out real good, and maybe get a glass fuel filter. Mine is off now, Ill do the same also, plus clean and paint the outside. How ugly is the sender? As far as the Junkyard, I came back later when the nice guy was workin! Ive had good luck with IAP, but any major supplier reccomended on this site is OK!
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i pulled mine off and had a radiator shop give it an acid bath to remove the surface rust. then i used the tank sealer to finish the job. get the i quart size, it will cover all the surface area inside the tank better than the pint size. if you dont do the acid bath the kit brings instructions for a home remedy to remove the rust. follow this link for the sealer.

http://www.caswellplating.com/aids/epoxygas.htm

warning the filler hose hardens when the inside is exposed to air. if you keep the tank off a long time and dont replace the hose your going to have fun reinstalling it. :shock:
pope

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Dont use the dry wall screws in the tank. They get stuck in places and impossible to remove. Use lacquer thinner and a two foot link of chain. The size that you would lock a bike up with. It adds weight and is easy to remove all of it. Usually the rust is just on the bottom.
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Here's another solution:
http://www.por15.com/prodinfo.asp?grp=FTRK&dept=12

It takes about a week to perform this job, because the tank needs to be bone-dry before application. I used a small "muffin" fan over the sender opening to speed things along.
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Bernie, the reason that I didnot use that stuff is that it contains Isocyanate. That is some pretty nasty stuff. Use it outside at the very least. Never inside a closed in garage, as you can count the brain cells die. That is the same stuff that is in 2-part clear coat paint and those painters use fresh air masks.
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It tooked me a minute tooo.
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Isocyanate huh? Thanks for the heads up Pope.
I gotta go, I need to call my mother in law and tell her I found a real good paint for her headboard.
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using it for eye liner and fingernail polish would work quicker
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Yeah! And lipstick.
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spider54 wrote:i pulled mine off and had a radiator shop give it an acid bath to remove the surface rust. then i used the tank sealer to finish the job. get the i quart size, it will cover all the surface area inside the tank better than the pint size. if you dont do the acid bath the kit brings instructions for a home remedy to remove the rust. follow this link for the sealer.

http://www.caswellplating.com/aids/epoxygas.htm

warning the filler hose hardens when the inside is exposed to air. if you keep the tank off a long time and dont replace the hose your going to have fun reinstalling it. :shock:

I used this same epoxy on my motorcycle a couple of years ago. My Ducati has a carbon fiber gas tank, and it started seeping fuel at one of the seams. I cleaned it out with laquer thinner, applied the epoxy, and it has been leak-free since.
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John, I agree, thats the stuff I use and its great.
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