front spindles (or stub-axles)

[124spiderman]

What do you guys use for larger front spindles? (or stub-axles as we call them)
I'm curious as we here in Oz used larger spindles derived from the Fiat 125, 132 or Argenta) to accommodate fitting larger wheels. But those models were not exported to the US. (or were they??)
These days guys are fitting wider than normal rims (eg 15x7" rims etc).
Curious.

[engineerted]

Spiderman,

You are correct, no Fiat 125, 132 or others here in the states. We run the stock 124 stub axle with larger wheel. Not an issue for road cars, but for the small group of us who race these cars. We have to crack check them annually. I wish we did have something with larger diameter axles.

Ted

[124spiderman]

Interesting. I thought as much.
As a rule we tend to go for the thicker axles when fitting wider rims & tyres (7 inch rim has been known to break the axles under certain conditions - I've come across a couple of Coupes with that problem). Safe to say though that 6 inch is the safest width without any issues. Easier to steer too.

[RicambiStorici]

Hi there,

we have at the shop the kit to transform your Fiat 124 hub/spindles to Fiat 125. We have NOS parts and a kit of used part in very good condition ready to be installed at your car.

Please see the photo of the USED kit (very very good condition quite NEW):

- All the parts in the photo 1 (complete kit), weight is 12kg. Price of the kit is 220,00 euro.

- Only the parts with green cross in the photo 2, weight is about 9 kg, price of kit 195,00.

You can see the photos (photo 1 and photo 2) at this link:

http://www.ricambistorici.com

choose photogallery then Fiat 125 and you'll find Photo1 and photo2 with the complete kit.

We can supply the same parts NEW but price are higher, you can ask me for that by email, our company is in Italy and we have a big warehouse with more than 40'000 part numbers Fiat Original for all the brand of Fiat Group, Fiat Auto - Lancia - Alfa - Autobianchi - IVECO and so on...

I'm trying (in the spare time) to classify the spare parts car by car but it's huge work, I made some photos of the parts we regularly sell to our customers in US - Europe and Australia, but you can ask me everything and I'll verify what we have in the warehouse (first of all mechanical parts, but we have also body parts and engines) from 60s to 2000.

Writeme an email at ricambistorici@gmail.com

[124spiderman]

Yes, you will only require what is crossed in green as the rest of the components you can use from 124.
You can use 124 backing plate, steering knuckle arm and brake calliper bracket.
In fact this will also lower the car by 5mm and the wheel bearings can be sourced from standard GM vehicles with the same larger diameter. (I used GM - Holden wheel bearings).

[FiatMac]

In fact this will also lower the car by 25mm and the wheel bearings can be sourced from standard GM vehicles with the same larger diameter.

This linked post indicates that the 125 stub axle only lowers the car by 6 mm or about 1/4".
http://www.fiatspider.com/f08/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=7989

It would also increase the camber gain as the suspension deflects. Maybe a good result especially for racing. The larger diameter would be of value in a racing app.

[124spiderman]

Yes correct.
I have European spring heights though, US spec cars had longer front springs as those cars sat higher than usual. (bumper height perhaps...? )

[RicambiStorici]

Yes, you will only require what is crossed in green as the rest of the components you can use from 124.
You can use 124 backing plate, steering knuckle arm and brake calliper bracket.
In fact this will also lower the car by 25mm and the wheel bearings can be sourced from standard GM vehicles with the same larger diameter. (I used GM - Holden wheel bearings).

yes, but we have the complete kit.

The wheel bearing are included if you see they are in the hubs, by the way for this kit (trust me in very good condition) we can reach a price which you and me like, ask me what is useful then I see how I can help you.

In the photo galler I put the parts we regularly sell in europe, but I asked my salesman to start photo for 124 AC BC CC and AS BC CS version, have a look at the photo gallery once a month.

[sydh70]

Yes, you will only require what is crossed in green as the rest of the components you can use from 124.
You can use 124 backing plate, steering knuckle arm and brake calliper bracket.
In fact this will also lower the car by 25mm and the wheel bearings can be sourced from standard GM vehicles with the same larger diameter. (I used GM - Holden wheel bearings).

As mentioned in another topic (http://www.fiatspider.com/f08/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=7989) I have issues using 124 backing plate and calliper bracket while using at the same time 125 spindle and hub.
I will may need some washers to fix the bracket at the correct place. Currently I can't fix it as it hits the disc...

Does someone had the same issue ?

[124spiderman]

I just realised I had a typing error in my original post. Using 132 front spindles should lower the car by approx. 5mm - NOT 25mm) Sorry typo.
Unusual that the disc should rub the caliper bracket. Silly question but have you checked that everything has been bolted in the correct manner/order. Try using the 125 backing plate?

[divace73]

Thought I'd pipe in here, I have the Argenta axles on mine and there is a washer between the brake carrier to space it out a so the calliper fits on the rotor

[sydh70]

Thank you for replying.
I am quite sure everything is correctly mounted : I have the other side to make comparison.

I have to measure but I think I will need something like a 5mm plate. So not just half a millimeter...
I will check and tell you.

[sydh70]

I have checked and I need a 3.5mm to 4mm spacer. I will put two washers to achieve this value.
But the screw is no more long enough to accept a stop washer so there are several options. To ad some metallic glue (soft one), to find longer screw and cut it to have the perfect length, to pierce the screw and ad metallic wire.

[sydh70]

I have drilled the screws. Not sure it will be easy to block them correctly with my standard wire but I have nothing to lost trying it.

[sydh70]

In fact the pressed steel bracket fixed to the spindle which hold the calliper cast bracket would be different between 125 and 124. That would be the reason why I need spacers.