I have a 1979 Spider, so do I need a steering idler with teeth or without? Should I get a new arm, as well?
Prices are pricey, but, my mechanic told to me look into one.
Thanks, guys and gals.
Steering Idler Question
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Steering Idler Question
1979 Fiat 2000 "Luigi"
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Re: Steering Idler Question
Originally your Spider had an idler with splined shaft (with teeth). Because the other one is cheaper I have heard of people taking the arm from a splined shaft and putting it on a new smooth shaft idler. Supposedly once you tighten the nuts it holds it just fine. However I have never done this myself.
There is no need to buy a new arm unless yours is damaged, which is unlikely.
There is no need to buy a new arm unless yours is damaged, which is unlikely.
Csaba
'71 124 Spider, much modified
'17 124 Abarth, silver
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Co-owner of the best dang Fiat parts place in town
'71 124 Spider, much modified
'17 124 Abarth, silver
http://italiancarclub.com/csaba/
Co-owner of the best dang Fiat parts place in town
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Re: Steering Idler Question
what we need is a seal for the lower shaft in the oem oiled idler, that seal goes bad, letting all the fish oil out then they sieze up after time, i have many time put new oil in one and made it last years, but a new seal would really help the situation. i have looked years ago for the seal from every manufacturer i could think of, but had no luck.
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son has 78 spider
75 spider , 6 Lancia Scorpions, 2018 Abarth Spider, 500X wifes, 500L 3 82 Zagatos. 82 spider 34k original miles, 83 pininfarina, 8 fiat spider parts cars
son has 78 spider
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Re: Steering Idler Question
My mechanic took hold of my left tire and was able to jiggle it. He looked back toward the idler and told me that was the issue.
The arm was reusable, but he said I needed a new assembly.
The arm was reusable, but he said I needed a new assembly.
1979 Fiat 2000 "Luigi"
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Re: Steering Idler Question
http://103.15.178.43/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 5e9f35769f
Not a complete solution, but you'll get the idea of what you're up against.
Not a complete solution, but you'll get the idea of what you're up against.
Mick.
'82 2litre 131, rally cams, IDFs & headers.
'82 2litre 131, rally cams, IDFs & headers.
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Re: Steering Idler Question
Anyone know the difference between the Universal idler and the splined?
Both are splined actually, but the $40 difference doesn't go unnoticed.
Both are splined actually, but the $40 difference doesn't go unnoticed.
1979 Fiat 2000 "Luigi"
Re: Steering Idler Question
A few years ago on my 78 spider the idler arm was loose. The bushings that held the shaft in place were wasted top and bottom. I took apart the idler and looked around my shop and found some inner tie rod bushings in the bin that look like they'd fit. The shaft fit perfectly, All I had to do was lathe in a lip which I did on my bench grinder arbor and a pen knife. It was a perfect fix. The bushings are Moog K7349 25 bucks at the parts store.
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Re: Steering Idler Question
A '78 originally did not have an idler with bushings. Sounds like someone substituted an idler from a 124 Sedan, or a later Pininfarina Spider, which did have a rubber bush top and bottom. The bushings for those idlers can be bought inexpensively.
Csaba
'71 124 Spider, much modified
'17 124 Abarth, silver
http://italiancarclub.com/csaba/
Co-owner of the best dang Fiat parts place in town
'71 124 Spider, much modified
'17 124 Abarth, silver
http://italiancarclub.com/csaba/
Co-owner of the best dang Fiat parts place in town