73 Fiat Spider 2.0

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rodman

Re: 73 Fiat Spider 2.0

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narfire wrote:Isn't the 2L block a bit higher/taller than the 1800? The timing belts are different.
I think you had a 1800,perhaps measure the block only height on each.
Chris
By the looks of the numbers I have a 1592cc ????

http://www.mirafiori.com/id/tableeng.html


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you can still see what motor you have with the casting number


Engine Series Type Volume Bore Stroke C.R. Valve Timing Intake Emissions H.P.
100G3.002 OHV 817cc * * * * Carb. None *
100GBC.040 OHV 903cc * * * * Carb. Federal *
100GBS.040 OHV 903cc * * * * Carb. Federal *
100GC.000 OHV 843cc * * * * Carb. Federal *
100GC3.040 OHV 817cc * * * * Carb. Federal *
100GS.000 OHV 843cc * * * * Carb. Federal *
100GS3.040 OHV 817cc * * * * Carb. Federal *
124A.000 OHV 1197cc 73.0mm 71.5mm 8.8:1 25-59/65-19 Carb. None 60
124A.040 OHV 1197cc 73.0mm 71.5mm 8.8:1 25-59/65-19 Carb. Federal 60
124AC.040 DOHC 1438cc 80.0mm 71.5mm 8.9:1 26-66/66-26 Carb. Federal 90
124B2.040 DOHC 1438cc 80.0mm 71.5mm 8.9:1 26-66/66-26 Carb. Federal 90
125BC.040 DOHC 1608cc 80.0mm 80.0mm 9.8:1 26-66/66-26 Carb. Federal 110
128A.040 SOHC 1116cc 80.0mm 55.5mm 8.8:1 12-52/52-12 Carb. Federal 49
128A1.031.5 SOHC 1290cc 86.0mm 55.5mm 8.5:1 10-54/54-10 Carb. California 51
128A1.040 SOHC 1290cc 86.0mm 55.5mm 8.9:1 12-52/52-12 Carb. Federal 51
128A1.040.4 SOHC 1290cc 86.0mm 55.5mm 8.5:1 10-54/54-10 Carb. Federal 51
128A1.040.5 SOHC 1290cc 86.0mm 55.5mm 8.5:1 10-54/54-10 Carb. Federal 51
128AS.031.5 SOHC 1290cc 86.0mm 55.5mm 8.5:1 12-52/52-12 Carb. California 52
128AS.040.4 SOHC 1290cc 86.0mm 55.5mm 8.5:1 12-52/52-12 Carb. Federal 54
128AS.040.5 SOHC 1290cc 86.0mm 55.5mm 8.5:1 12-52/52-12 Carb. Federal 54
132A.040.4 DOHC 1592cc 80.0mm 79.2mm 9.8:1 26-66/66-26 Carb. Federal 104
132A1.031.5 DOHC 1756cc 84.0mm 79.2mm 8.0:1 5-53/53-5 Carb. California 83
132A1.040.4 DOHC 1756cc 84.0mm 79.2mm 8.0:1 5-53/53-5 Carb. Federal 86
132A1.040.5 DOHC 1756cc 84.0mm 79.2mm 8.0:1 5-53/53-5 Carb. Federal 86
132AC.040.3 DOHC 1592cc 80.0mm 79.2mm 8.0:1 22-70/70-22 Carb. Federal 87
132C2.031 DOHC 1995cc 84.0mm 90.0mm 8.1:1 5-53/53-5 Carb. California 80
132C2.040 DOHC 1995cc 84.0mm 90.0mm 8.1:1 5-53/53-5 Carb. Federal 86
132C3.031 DOHC 1995cc 84.0mm 90.0mm 8.1:1 5-53/53-5 F.I. California 102
132C3.040 DOHC 1995cc 84.0mm 90.0mm 8.1:1 5-53/53-5 F.I. Federal 105
138A2.031 SOHC 1498cc 86.4mm 63.9mm 8.5:1 10-54/54-10 Carb. California 66
138A2.040 SOHC 1498cc 86.4mm 63.9mm 8.5:1 10-54/54-10 Carb. Federal 67
138AS.031 SOHC 1498cc 86.4mm 63.9mm 8.5:1 10-54/54-10 Carb. California 66
138AS.040 SOHC 1498cc 86.4mm 63.9mm 8.5:1 10-54/54-10 Carb. Federal 67
138B2.031 SOHC 1498cc 86.4mm 63.9mm 8.5:1 10-54/54-10 F.I. California 71
138B2.040 SOHC 1498cc 86.4mm 63.9mm 8.5:1 10-54/54-10 F.I. Federal 72
138BS.031 SOHC 1498cc 86.4mm 63.9mm 8.5:1 10-54/54-10 F.I. California 71
138BS.040 SOHC 1498cc 86.4mm 63.9mm 8.5:1 10-54/54-10 F.I. Federal 72
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rodman

Re: 73 Fiat Spider 2.0

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124 Model Model Year Chassis Type Beginning Serial No. Engine Type
Coupe 1968 124AC 0034514 124AC.040
Coupe 1969 124AC 0066280 124AC.040
Coupe 1970 124BC 0113870 124AC.040
Coupe 1971 124BC 0115877 124AC.040
" " 124BC1 0139913 125BC.040
Coupe 1972 124BC1 0181442 125BC.040
Coupe 1973 124CC 0206905 125BC.040
" " " 0213370 132AC.040.3
Coupe 1974 124CC1 0240100 132A1.040.4
Coupe 1975 124CC1 0269934 132A1.040.5
" " " " 132A1.031.5
Sedan 1967 124A unknown 124A.000
Sedan 1968 124A 0362092 124A.040
Sedan 1969 124A 0490920 124A.040
Sedan Special 1970 124B 0658588 124B2.040
Sedan Special 1971 124B 0826844 124B2.040
Sedan Special 1972 124B 1040465 124B2.040
Sedan Special 1973 124B 1240167 124B2.040
Sedan Special TC 1974 124B 1358832 132A.040.4
Spider 1968 124AS 0005619 124AC.040
Spider 1969 124AS 0010554 124AC.040
Spider 1970 124BS 0021861 124AC.040
Spider 1971 124BS 0022589 124AC.040
" " 124BS1 0033950 125BC.040
Spider 1972 124BS1 0047032 125BC.040
Spider 1973 124CS 0059592 125BC.040
" " " 0063308 132AC.040.3
Spider 1974 124CS1 0071650 132A1.040.4
Spider 1975 124CS1 0088792 132A1.040.5
" " " " 132A1.031.5
Spider 1976 124CS1 0099909 132A1.040.5
" " " " 132A1.031.5
Spider 1977 124CS1 0113343 132A1.040.5
" " " " 132A1.031.5
Spider 1978 124CS1 0126001 132A1.040.5
" " " " 132A1.031.5
Spider 1979 124CS2 0142649 132C2.040
" " " " 132C2.031
Spider 1980 124CS2 0157654 132C3.040
" " " " 132C3.031
" " 124CS0 0171001 132C3.031
Station Wagon 1967 124AF unknown 124A.000
Station Wagon 1968 124AF 0352000 124A.040
Station Wagon 1969 124AF 0493214 124A.040
Station Wagon 1970 124AF1 0658908 124B2.040
Station Wagon 1971 124AF1 0890001 124B2.040
Station Wagon 1972 124AF1 1028447 124B2.040
Station Wagon 1973 124AF1 1240221 124B2.040
Station Wagon TC 1974 124AF1 1358304 132A.040.4
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SLOSpider
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Your car is a: 1973 124 Spider 2.0FI
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Re: 73 Fiat Spider 2.0

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So then where does my casting number fit in ?

132ABO 263870

Im pretty sure all those numbers are related to the STAMPED numbers in each block, except mine.
1975 124 Spider
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1967 GT Mustang Fastback
rodman

Re: 73 Fiat Spider 2.0

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SLOSpider wrote:So then where does my casting number fit in ?

132ABO 263870

Im pretty sure all those numbers are related to the STAMPED numbers in each block, except mine.

Im not sure I am not so sure my 80 has 2.L now
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Re: 73 Fiat Spider 2.0

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aCheck and see if you can clean off all the old paint and grime above the oil filter housing. Should see a flat area there to get your numbers to verify what block you have. Be just like in my pics put with numbers :)
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Re: 73 Fiat Spider 2.0

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Rodman,

I believe you have a 2l block. My 81 2L (all original with matching numbers) has the same casting on the block as yours but it has 132C3.031 stamped on the block above intake side motor mount area (not above oil filter housing). This engine series indicates a California FI 2L.
Mike
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Weelan

Re: 73 Fiat Spider 2.0

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My 79 2L has the same casting. I can't read the stamped numbers on mine either, but because it's coated with 2mm of grease/oil/dirt.
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Re: 73 Fiat Spider 2.0

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Just measured the two blocks I have on stands.... 1.8L...26.9cms
and the 2L was 28.2 cms measured best I could with a builders tape about 1 cm difference..
2 L block has 132 AC cast and the 1.8 has 131 AB cast in it.
Chris
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Re: 73 Fiat Spider 2.0

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Well I got some work done today. Pullies and timing belt back on . Front cover and lower intake on. New motor mounts, plugs, wires, installed my rebuilt distributor. Im going to relocate the coil to right side fender well so I don't have to lengthen the pickup coil wires and find a longer coil wire. I don't know why they didn't put it over there anyways.

Tomorrow will be installing longer wires for coil remount. drill holes and mount coil unit. get a reducer for return fuel line that goes from 7.5mm to the 1/4 inch or so return line. This to fix the double clamp and hope it doesn't leak approach they used. Install radiator, hoses, trans mount and reinstall driveline. Also need to try and drain old gas, replace wrong rubber lines, clamps and fuel filter. Blow out the steel lines to gas tank, cant seem to find my air blower nozzle :( .

Oh also found a nice hot lead to the coil they made loner by a butt connector then wrapped in FOIL against the fire wall :shock: WTH.

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1975 124 Spider
1976 Mazda Cosmo http://www.mazdacosmo.com
1989 Chevy k5 Blazer
1967 GT Mustang Fastback
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Re: 73 Fiat Spider 2.0

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Wow, lots of work getting done. Sounds like fun! Good looking engine now too.
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Re: 73 Fiat Spider 2.0

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A few things have me puzzled on this engine:

Timing mark is on the passenger side even though Im told my crank pulley is a early style for the T-belt. Would the 2.0 front pulley have been installed or was the 73's timed from the rh side?

There was a capacitor bolted to the radiator and connected to one of the wires going to the fan. I haven't seen this before and don't know if its needed?

Exhaust manifold does not have any studs to mount a heat shield to?

Dip stick goes straight into block. Would like to get the tube style but don't know if they will fit.
1975 124 Spider
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Re: 73 Fiat Spider 2.0

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http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8187/8427 ... e799_c.jpg

the engine in the above picture is definatly a 2.0
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Re: 73 Fiat Spider 2.0

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the block numbers on my 80 2L Fi match yours. even the number above is a match. I pretty sure my motor was the original with the car. My guess is someone put an early exhaust manifold on the car. Count the number of bolts on the exhaust end. Don't know what to say about the capacitor. Maybe it was kicking off some RFs everytime it turned on. I just got rid of my long tube for a short stick. the rubber matched, so you should be able to install a long stick. I removed mine because i installed a computronix ignition and it interfered.
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Re: 73 Fiat Spider 2.0

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Thanks for the replies but that 132ac engine is rodmans not mine. Mine is the 132AC cast. Saw a 2.0 exhaust manifold on Ebay and was different than mine but mine also has an O2 Sensor in it?
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Re: 73 Fiat Spider 2.0

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IF YOUR EXHAUST MANIFOLD HAS A O2 SENSOR IN IT , IT IS FROM A EFI 2.0
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