New head bolt broke

Keep it on topic, it will make it easier to find what you need.
Post Reply
ORFORD2004
Posts: 1120
Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:48 pm
Your car is a: 1983 PININFARINA
Location: Sherbrooke, Qc, Canada

New head bolt broke

Post by ORFORD2004 »

I just bought head bolts from Vicks. They are hexagonal head instead of torx that was in original. When i torque the head with Mark 5 layers new gasket to 61 pounds-foot, the bolt #3 snap right on the thread parts flush with the base. I decided to reuse my original bolts and that time, it was #2 bolt that snap... :evil: Did anybody used stud instead of bolt? I pass a tap in the base just before installation and put some oil on the thread. My torque wrench is always kept with no tension on the spring. What do you suspect???? Bad torque wrench??? I will compare it tuesday with one from my machine shop.
htchevyii
Patron 2022
Patron 2022
Posts: 1807
Joined: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:31 pm
Your car is a: 1982 Spider hers 1972 Spider his
Location: Hydesville, CA (NorCal)

Re: New head bolt broke

Post by htchevyii »

I've had a few fiat head bots stretch, but haven't had any break yet. I'd definitely check the torque wrench.
Trey
Image
1982 SPIDER 2000, 1964 CHEVYII, 1969 Chevy Nova, 2005 DODGE RAM, 1988 Jeep Comanche
1972 Spider, 78 Spider rat racer 57 f-100,
User avatar
azruss
Posts: 3659
Joined: Sun May 30, 2010 12:24 pm
Your car is a: 80 Fiat 2000 FI

Re: New head bolt broke

Post by azruss »

running a tap just cleans the threads and puts all that crap in the bottom of the hole. make sure the holes are completely clean. might do a quick length comparison with new and old.
ORFORD2004
Posts: 1120
Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:48 pm
Your car is a: 1983 PININFARINA
Location: Sherbrooke, Qc, Canada

Re: New head bolt broke

Post by ORFORD2004 »

The tap was pass and i blew air in the hole making the coolant to splash.
User avatar
azruss
Posts: 3659
Joined: Sun May 30, 2010 12:24 pm
Your car is a: 80 Fiat 2000 FI

Re: New head bolt broke

Post by azruss »

watch where your hardware comes from. In my experience, the Chinese have yet to figure out how to harden something properly. most of their stuff is too brittle. they also use alot of recycled steel, so you really dont know whats in the mix. have run on to steel with some really hard stuff in the mix.
ORFORD2004
Posts: 1120
Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:48 pm
Your car is a: 1983 PININFARINA
Location: Sherbrooke, Qc, Canada

Re: New head bolt broke

Post by ORFORD2004 »

My torque wrench is from Canadian tire Maximum brand. It suppose to be the professionnal line from them. My friend have a snap on and i will compare them on a wheeel nut torque to 61 pound foot.
ORFORD2004
Posts: 1120
Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:48 pm
Your car is a: 1983 PININFARINA
Location: Sherbrooke, Qc, Canada

Re: New head bolt broke

Post by ORFORD2004 »

My torque wrench is accurate comparing to the snap on one. So i have a problem...
djape1977
Posts: 985
Joined: Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:08 pm
Your car is a: 1970 fiat 124bc
Location: Belgrade, Serbia, eastern Europe

Re: New head bolt broke

Post by djape1977 »

chinese crap bolts sold as proper ones. i rather use old bolts than new ones since it's next to impossible to get good ones.
by the way, original bolts were hex head. not torx.
ORFORD2004
Posts: 1120
Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:48 pm
Your car is a: 1983 PININFARINA
Location: Sherbrooke, Qc, Canada

Re: New head bolt broke

Post by ORFORD2004 »

My bolts come from Vicks Autosports and i don't know where they buy them. The thing is that i'm stuck for another week and summer is short down here. :evil:
djape1977
Posts: 985
Joined: Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:08 pm
Your car is a: 1970 fiat 124bc
Location: Belgrade, Serbia, eastern Europe

Re: New head bolt broke

Post by djape1977 »

only way to snap a head bolt is if it's low quality steel.
if your torque wrench was bad and bolts good, you could strip thread from the block if you were strong and smart as a mule.

no insult intended, i still believe that bolt is crap.
obdulio39

Re: New head bolt broke

Post by obdulio39 »

i've used the same bolts 3 times with no problem. get your money back!
ORFORD2004
Posts: 1120
Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:48 pm
Your car is a: 1983 PININFARINA
Location: Sherbrooke, Qc, Canada

Re: New head bolt broke

Post by ORFORD2004 »

I just send a e-mail to ARP Bolt. If they can supply me, i'll be in business . The bolts are made in USA. So pray for me so i can have a positive answer.
ORFORD2004
Posts: 1120
Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:48 pm
Your car is a: 1983 PININFARINA
Location: Sherbrooke, Qc, Canada

Re: New head bolt broke

Post by ORFORD2004 »

My head is on and torque properly. Thanks to ARP bolt. If you guys want to do the job right the first time, use the stud #ARP-AM5000-1LB and the nut #ARP-300-8344 from summitracing.com. I reuse the stock washer and everything is right.
LIQUIDLOUNGE

Re: New head bolt broke

Post by LIQUIDLOUNGE »

The players that remain in the US made fastener industry have been crazy busy, even through the recession...nobody wants to tarnish a hard earned reputation on a faulty nut, bolt or screw. How many of you guys have broken heads off of household type screws (i.e. drywall screws, wood screws, etc)? 10-15 yrs ago you may have stripped a head or two (usually with a worn bit) but never did the screw heads just snap off.
djape1977
Posts: 985
Joined: Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:08 pm
Your car is a: 1970 fiat 124bc
Location: Belgrade, Serbia, eastern Europe

Re: New head bolt broke

Post by djape1977 »

made in P.R.C. :mrgreen:
Post Reply