0-100 (0-60)KMPH
- 124ADDHE
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0-100 (0-60)KMPH
I know i know but just for fun and i know everyones accuracy will vary but i loaded up the car with some high octane (usually run 87octane for fuel economy reasons) and ran 5 0-100 runs (live out in the country, wasnt a problem) and averages just under 7 seconds consistantly (still have the winter tires on but they are sticky) shifting @ circa 7000rpm on :
10.5-1 comp
40mm sidedraught carbs with 36mm choke (sucking from engine bay, still looking for time to do cold-air intake)
stock electronic ignition w/accel supercoil and solid-core wires
ported stock head on 1978 1756cc motor
Ansa 4-2-1 header, 2.25" exhaust through a 2.5" thrush straight-through glasspack
Anyone else wanna post some results? All for good fun though. I may have to call BS if someone posts sub 4 seconds in a non-nitrous application
10.5-1 comp
40mm sidedraught carbs with 36mm choke (sucking from engine bay, still looking for time to do cold-air intake)
stock electronic ignition w/accel supercoil and solid-core wires
ported stock head on 1978 1756cc motor
Ansa 4-2-1 header, 2.25" exhaust through a 2.5" thrush straight-through glasspack
Anyone else wanna post some results? All for good fun though. I may have to call BS if someone posts sub 4 seconds in a non-nitrous application
Regards,
Keith Cox
1973 124 Spider
1973 John Deere 500c backhoe
1987 Jaguar VDP
2013 passat tdi
2015 cherokee
Keith Cox
1973 124 Spider
1973 John Deere 500c backhoe
1987 Jaguar VDP
2013 passat tdi
2015 cherokee
Re: 0-100 (0-60)KMPH
really tough to compare standing start times, how about 20-60 or something like that.
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Re: 0-100 (0-60)KMPH
It is hard to get an accurate 0-60 time without an expensive electronic set up like Road and track has.
under 7 seconds on a 124 would be a very fast time for these cars. these cars did not break 10 seconds stock. Probably need at least 150 HP or so and a good amount of bottom end torque to achieve that, plus some really quick shifts. for comparison, the first BMW E30 M3 was between 7.5 and 8 seconds 0-60.
My 67 weighs only 2020 pounds and was dynoed at 130 HP with a built up 1800, and I had a hard time cracking 8 seconds using a G-tec pro years ago. My car pulls pretty hard too.
under 7 seconds on a 124 would be a very fast time for these cars. these cars did not break 10 seconds stock. Probably need at least 150 HP or so and a good amount of bottom end torque to achieve that, plus some really quick shifts. for comparison, the first BMW E30 M3 was between 7.5 and 8 seconds 0-60.
My 67 weighs only 2020 pounds and was dynoed at 130 HP with a built up 1800, and I had a hard time cracking 8 seconds using a G-tec pro years ago. My car pulls pretty hard too.
1967 Fiat 124 Spider
1964 Fiat Abarth 850TC conversion
1962 Abarth Allemano 1 liter Coupe
1964 Fiat Abarth 850TC conversion
1962 Abarth Allemano 1 liter Coupe
- azruss
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Re: 0-100 (0-60)KMPH
this goes way back when i drove the car daily. again this was out on a lone country road with a stop watch. 1970 with a 2L with a bored out 71 carb. everything else stock. best i did was 10.5 sec. the difference was how well i controlled clutch release and wheel spin. over 5 runs, i'm sure the average would have been in the low 11s.
- maytag
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Re: 0-100 (0-60)KMPH
I bet that hi-octane fuel was worth a full second, huh?124ADDHE wrote:I know i know but just for fun and i know everyones accuracy will vary but i loaded up the car with some high octane (usually run 87octane for fuel economy reasons) and ran 5 0-100 runs (live out in the country, wasnt a problem) and averages just under 7 seconds consistantly (still have the winter tires on but they are sticky) shifting @ circa 7000rpm on :
10.5-1 comp
40mm sidedraught carbs with 36mm choke (sucking from engine bay, still looking for time to do cold-air intake)
stock electronic ignition w/accel supercoil and solid-core wires
ported stock head on 1978 1756cc motor
Ansa 4-2-1 header, 2.25" exhaust through a 2.5" thrush straight-through glasspack
Anyone else wanna post some results? All for good fun though. I may have to call BS if someone posts sub 4 seconds in a non-nitrous application
I'm no Boy-Racer..... but if I can't take every on-ramp at TWICE the posted limit.... I'm a total failure!
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Re: 0-100 (0-60)KMPH
Nice. How fast will it go from 100 to 0?
- 124ADDHE
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Re: 0-100 (0-60)KMPH
It is hard to be accurate on this one, for sure; i looked up the 1974 abarth and it does a 0-100 in 8.1 seconds @ 126hp (the stat i found) (http://www.automobile-catalog.com/auta_details1.php - excellent site).
Mark, i will try such a test once the summer fuel is here @ chevron as right now we can only run the 92 octane, the 94 will come (always worried about blowing something up when laying down full throttle through the gears, the 94, despite the lower performance is a nice safety factor)
Maytag, thanks for the laugh haha
0-100? Hmmm, would have to measure that one in feet. It stops happily fast enough but unfortunately too much quicker than it goes but that will always be so unless someday i can afford a croft engine......
anyone else care to offer their best approximate 0 - 62?
Mark, i will try such a test once the summer fuel is here @ chevron as right now we can only run the 92 octane, the 94 will come (always worried about blowing something up when laying down full throttle through the gears, the 94, despite the lower performance is a nice safety factor)
Maytag, thanks for the laugh haha
0-100? Hmmm, would have to measure that one in feet. It stops happily fast enough but unfortunately too much quicker than it goes but that will always be so unless someday i can afford a croft engine......
anyone else care to offer their best approximate 0 - 62?
Regards,
Keith Cox
1973 124 Spider
1973 John Deere 500c backhoe
1987 Jaguar VDP
2013 passat tdi
2015 cherokee
Keith Cox
1973 124 Spider
1973 John Deere 500c backhoe
1987 Jaguar VDP
2013 passat tdi
2015 cherokee
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Re: 0-100 (0-60)KMPH
My first Spider was a '78, and I had removed the bumpers to loose weight. The engine was rebuilt but it was stock, however I ran a 34DMSA carb, stock electronic ignition, and a header. By using a handheld stopwatch, and over-revving it in 2nd (so I don't have to shift into 3rd) I managed 60 mph in about 8 sec.
I thought it was fast, until I dragraced my buddy in his base Mazda Protege (~103 Hp), and we were about equal...
I thought it was fast, until I dragraced my buddy in his base Mazda Protege (~103 Hp), and we were about equal...
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Co-owner of the best dang Fiat parts place in town
- azruss
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Re: 0-100 (0-60)KMPH
See if I remember this right. The guy that got me into Fiats was a fellow grad student in physics at the U of O that had 2 Abarths (double bubble, mono 1000). He said to get the best acceleration, the faster you go, the higher rev the shift point. His theory is, at low speed, torque is king and you want to keep the RPMs in the peak torque range. As you go faster, wind resistance comes into play which requires horse power to overcome, thus moving the shift point into the peak horsepower range. We actually tested the torque vs horsepower theory by having a drag race between my 850 spider and his Siata Spring. He had more displacement, but less horses. Sure enough, he beat me off the line and I had caught up and moving ahead by the time we hit 60 mph.
- 124JOE
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Re: 0-100 (0-60)KMPH
man thats fast!!
if im going to hit that im going to need a very big hill
if im going to hit that im going to need a very big hill
when you do everything correct people arent sure youve done anything at all (futurama)
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- Curly
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Re: 0-100 (0-60)KMPH
A few years ago a group of local Sports car enthusiasts took their cars on a social drive to spectate at a weekend drag meeting. The organisers of the drag strip twisted our arms, lent us helmets and gave us a couple of runs down the strip
I've still got the time sheet for my '76 Spider running a standard 2-litre Eurospec donk with twin 40DCOE Webers.
She hit the 660 foot mark in 10.7 seconds doing 64.2 mph. I would suggest that's an easy sub 10 second 0 -100km/h
The quarter mile was completed in 16.9 seconds at 79.23 mph.
I've still got the time sheet for my '76 Spider running a standard 2-litre Eurospec donk with twin 40DCOE Webers.
She hit the 660 foot mark in 10.7 seconds doing 64.2 mph. I would suggest that's an easy sub 10 second 0 -100km/h
The quarter mile was completed in 16.9 seconds at 79.23 mph.
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Re: 0-100 (0-60)KMPH
Did a 7.4 second 0-60 at SA raceway. Dyno is 139 HP to the rear wheels. Car is an 82 with 1800 ported and polished head, 10.1 domed, street performance cam, exhaust header 2.5 in exhaust, megasquirt EDIS/coil/trigger wheel. I know the car can do better. In theory I should be able to run 7 seconds flat. Did three runs 1/4 was 15.2 at 90 mph. The car is quick and fun but I'm not real fond of running it that hard because of the many parts I have not replaced like the differential.
Buon giro a tutti! - enjoy the ride!
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Re: 0-100 (0-60)KMPH
I was going to mention that: doing standing start speed runs in any antique sports car is pretty hard on it, and you could end up damaging the dif in these cars, which is on the delicate side.
1967 Fiat 124 Spider
1964 Fiat Abarth 850TC conversion
1962 Abarth Allemano 1 liter Coupe
1964 Fiat Abarth 850TC conversion
1962 Abarth Allemano 1 liter Coupe
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Re: 0-100 (0-60)KMPH
when I first got my gtec meter, I was really excited to see what my hot rod 128 Rally could do. car had over 100HP ( twin 40's, cam, header, plex ignition, 1500cc) and was very light. I couldn't believe it only did 0-60 in about 9 seconds. these older sports cars just aren't that fast by any kind of modern standard, but they feel fast if they are set up right, and that is where the fun is. I was glad to see the spec on the 124 Abarth. fun to see my times on my car ( about 8 seconds 0-60) were about the same.Curly wrote:A few years ago a group of local Sports car enthusiasts took their cars on a social drive to spectate at a weekend drag meeting. The organisers of the drag strip twisted our arms, lent us helmets and gave us a couple of runs down the strip
I've still got the time sheet for my '76 Spider running a standard 2-litre Eurospec donk with twin 40DCOE Webers.
She hit the 660 foot mark in 10.7 seconds doing 64.2 mph. I would suggest that's an easy sub 10 second 0 -100km/h
The quarter mile was completed in 16.9 seconds at 79.23 mph.
1967 Fiat 124 Spider
1964 Fiat Abarth 850TC conversion
1962 Abarth Allemano 1 liter Coupe
1964 Fiat Abarth 850TC conversion
1962 Abarth Allemano 1 liter Coupe
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Re: 0-100 (0-60)KMPH
Those Canadians they always exagerate To do 0-60 in 7 seconds, the guy was on a ice patch and he hold the front brakes. That was the trick