Brake pads
Brake pads
A couple questions. I ordered new brake pads from autoricambi.....problem is that they are to thick to fit? Atleast the fronts are...have not tried the rears. Anyone else have this problem?
Also...could someone post a picture of how the pad springs clips go on? Not the old style long ones, just the little guys.
Thanks!
Also...could someone post a picture of how the pad springs clips go on? Not the old style long ones, just the little guys.
Thanks!
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The front pads are thicker than the rear. Did you push the piston all the way in?
The caliper spring clips that hold the caliper to the support bracket go under the caliper and the shim would slide to the top of the caliper with the cotter pin going through inside the spring.
The brake pad retaining spring goes on with the flat side toward the inside so the pads don't rub. There are different sizes.
If yours are all thin, then it wouldn't matter which goes where. If you have a thick one, it would go toward the inside of the car. I bought some from Auto ricambi and they were all thick. You can only use the thick ones on the inside. I ended up using my old ones on the outside and sent the others back.
I would have posted a pic for you but I lost my computer last night due to the toilet dripping down and onto my kitchen table ruining it.
The caliper spring clips that hold the caliper to the support bracket go under the caliper and the shim would slide to the top of the caliper with the cotter pin going through inside the spring.
The brake pad retaining spring goes on with the flat side toward the inside so the pads don't rub. There are different sizes.
If yours are all thin, then it wouldn't matter which goes where. If you have a thick one, it would go toward the inside of the car. I bought some from Auto ricambi and they were all thick. You can only use the thick ones on the inside. I ended up using my old ones on the outside and sent the others back.
I would have posted a pic for you but I lost my computer last night due to the toilet dripping down and onto my kitchen table ruining it.
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Piston pushed all the way in...just does not fit. If I push te piston further in, the dust boot would come off.
Thanks for the info...good luck with the computer!
Thanks for the info...good luck with the computer!
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Just measured From outside to outside of the inner and outer brake pads when installed...1.76 inches. The opening on the caliper to the front of the piston is 1.70 max! These pads are way to thick. To get even 1.7 inches of opening the piston is already so far in that the dust cover rubs.
Input?
Input?
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Re: Brake pads
Coincidentally I've been working on my brakes this weekend and took a few pictures to make sure I could get them back together when I was done. These are from my 1974. Hope they are of some help - they are the "before" pictures!
A.J.
1974 Fiat 124 Spider
2006 Corvette
1981 Spider 2000 (sold 2013 - never should have sold that car)
1974 Fiat 124 Spider
2006 Corvette
1981 Spider 2000 (sold 2013 - never should have sold that car)
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Are you replacing the pads? Would love to see a picture with te pads installed but not the caliper? If you are replacing the pads, where did you get them.
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I was replacing the pads and rebuilding the calipers. The old calipers were shot, so new ones are on order - leaving the car on jack stands and disassembled for the week. I think I got my pads at either IAP or Vicks, the planning and ordering for the job took an embarassingly long time.
The pads would simply slide into the open bracket in the second picture - although that picture shows the old spring which I replaced.
The pads would simply slide into the open bracket in the second picture - although that picture shows the old spring which I replaced.
A.J.
1974 Fiat 124 Spider
2006 Corvette
1981 Spider 2000 (sold 2013 - never should have sold that car)
1974 Fiat 124 Spider
2006 Corvette
1981 Spider 2000 (sold 2013 - never should have sold that car)
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http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz31 ... NY1486.jpg
Please see the above picture. The problem is not the installation..its the overall width of the pads?
Please see the above picture. The problem is not the installation..its the overall width of the pads?
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I went out to the garage and pulled the soon to be replaced caliper off. The wheel spun fine with the caliper on. Here is the picture with the pads. The total width is about 1.75". One thing that is different is that I don't have the two metal plates on the outside of my pads that show in your picture.
A.J.
1974 Fiat 124 Spider
2006 Corvette
1981 Spider 2000 (sold 2013 - never should have sold that car)
1974 Fiat 124 Spider
2006 Corvette
1981 Spider 2000 (sold 2013 - never should have sold that car)
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AJ....I was wondering about the plates also. Going to research and see if they come off. Thank you for the pics and information.
Robert
Robert
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That did it....peeled off both the plates and everything fits nicely....tight but nice.
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I sure hope you cleaned the brackets and slides before putting them back together, and used brake assy lube on the moving parts
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Mark..nope not yet....just dry fitting. Now that I have the pads behind me...this week I install and lock down.
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Re: Brake pads
I just noticed this older thread and wanted to add that I too had to remove that outer metal shim on the yellowstuff EBC pads for my front rotors as there was no way that they would fit with this pad installed, it was tight fit with the pad removed; even after the break-in coating was removed, i still could not fit the anti-squeel shims (spring) on the pads! at least they didnt skimp on material! the squeels were there for a couple thousand km's when braking but they went and have stayed away, however, i did keep those shims in case they came in handy.
P.S. in review of the yellowstuff pads I can say that once the break-in coating was gone, the friction is phenomenal and I am a good reviewer as I brake without a booster since i have sidedraught carbs on my spider and any increase in friction is quite noticeable. I was a little concerned about my modification to use the dual carbs with the PBS manifold as I was having a hard time locking up the brakes with the pads that were on the car when I bought it, upgrading the pads was my next option versus engineering/buying new parts and having experienced brake fade going down a mountain once before (old stock low compression, worn out motor didnt offer much help braking), a good fade-resistant pad was something i wanted anyways...in conclusion of this tangent i have gone on, these pads are great and really do bite very hard, even my wife can lock up the brakes on the spider easily enough, so i now feel safe with this mod and i also am an advocate of these EBC pads. I bought some of the greenstuff ones for the RR, half the price of the dealer pads ($75/corner vs EBC @$75 per axel).
P.S. in review of the yellowstuff pads I can say that once the break-in coating was gone, the friction is phenomenal and I am a good reviewer as I brake without a booster since i have sidedraught carbs on my spider and any increase in friction is quite noticeable. I was a little concerned about my modification to use the dual carbs with the PBS manifold as I was having a hard time locking up the brakes with the pads that were on the car when I bought it, upgrading the pads was my next option versus engineering/buying new parts and having experienced brake fade going down a mountain once before (old stock low compression, worn out motor didnt offer much help braking), a good fade-resistant pad was something i wanted anyways...in conclusion of this tangent i have gone on, these pads are great and really do bite very hard, even my wife can lock up the brakes on the spider easily enough, so i now feel safe with this mod and i also am an advocate of these EBC pads. I bought some of the greenstuff ones for the RR, half the price of the dealer pads ($75/corner vs EBC @$75 per axel).
Regards,
Keith Cox
1973 124 Spider
1973 John Deere 500c backhoe
1987 Jaguar VDP
2013 passat tdi
2015 cherokee
Keith Cox
1973 124 Spider
1973 John Deere 500c backhoe
1987 Jaguar VDP
2013 passat tdi
2015 cherokee