Carburetor Difference
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Carburetor Difference
Is there a difference between a Weber 32/36 and an EMPI carburetor or are they the same thing?
I am replacing a 32ADFA on a 78 Spider. Will I need to buy jets or will it come with the correct ones. I have seen some posts where they are switched to make the car idle better. Just wondering what to expect with the new carb.
Thanks
I am replacing a 32ADFA on a 78 Spider. Will I need to buy jets or will it come with the correct ones. I have seen some posts where they are switched to make the car idle better. Just wondering what to expect with the new carb.
Thanks
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Re: Carburetor Difference
Thanks, I searched around and read lots of interesting stuff but I did not see that post, that is just what the doctor ordered, Thanks.
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Re: Carburetor Difference
Hi,fillupd wrote:Is there a difference between a Weber 32/36 and an EMPI carburetor or are they the same thing?
I am replacing a 32ADFA on a 78 Spider. Will I need to buy jets or will it come with the correct ones. I have seen some posts where they are switched to make the car idle better. Just wondering what to expect with the new carb.
Thanks
I too have a '78, and am contemplating the same issues, and here's what I "know":
Probably not worthwhile with the stock 4-1 '78 exhaust. I'm upgrading to pre-75 FIAT 4-2-1, some choose a header instead.
The EMPI is the Weber - produced under license in China. Parts should be completely interchangeable: YMMV.
Proper jetting can vary based on other parameters, such as exhaust, cam and ignition modifications. No one seems willing to hazard a baseline recommendation, and I'm unaware of the in-box configurations.
Price-wise the EMPI is carrying a premium, I don't understand why.
HTH,
Mark
...Yes; I know what it means: Fabbrica Italiana Automobili Torino.
DOLCETTO: 1978 CS1; 10:1, DMS, 4-2-1...
ANDIAMMO: 2012 500 ABARTH
Acquista il Biglietto; Prendere la Gita! - Hunter S. Thompson
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Re: Carburetor Difference
Thanks,
I ordered a carb and some breather hoses and such. I removed my intake and plugged some holes. I'm trying to maintain everything under there I can think of doing. I took my starter off to just rebuild it so it would be like new because I thought it would be tough to get out from the bottom. I can't even imagine trying to pull that starter out from underneath. I'm convinced pulling the intake to get to it is easier.
I cleaned out the steering gear and put in new Gear Oil. Before it goes back together I'm going to get rid of that little fill plug and put a plug in there that a guy can actually take out without removing the top. I read about that in another post, good idea right there.
I broke the short 90 for the vapor canister so I hope the one I ordered will fit (with modifications I have read in another post).
What would be a ball park figure for an exhaust upgrade add up to if you mind me asking.
I ordered a carb and some breather hoses and such. I removed my intake and plugged some holes. I'm trying to maintain everything under there I can think of doing. I took my starter off to just rebuild it so it would be like new because I thought it would be tough to get out from the bottom. I can't even imagine trying to pull that starter out from underneath. I'm convinced pulling the intake to get to it is easier.
I cleaned out the steering gear and put in new Gear Oil. Before it goes back together I'm going to get rid of that little fill plug and put a plug in there that a guy can actually take out without removing the top. I read about that in another post, good idea right there.
I broke the short 90 for the vapor canister so I hope the one I ordered will fit (with modifications I have read in another post).
What would be a ball park figure for an exhaust upgrade add up to if you mind me asking.
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Re: Carburetor Difference
I found a reconditioned manifold at Midwest-Bayless, $187, and Vick's has the 1800 downpipe, $87.fillupd wrote:What would be a ball park figure for an exhaust upgrade add up to if you mind me asking.
C. Obert has the manifolds in various states of repose from $65+S/H.
(Many choose the header route ($310 - $650+). To me it was a question of sound and underhood heat.)
I bought a NOS Abarth exhaust, $425, from the guy in the Parts for Sale section, looks great - should sound great.
Gaskets, exhaust nuts (don't ask), hangers, bloody ridiculously overpriced hanger brackets, extra hanger (ANSA via IAP), SS hardware: $95
$795
I'm hoping to get all this into the car this week, finally!
(+$300?)
Ciao,
Mark
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DOLCETTO: 1978 CS1; 10:1, DMS, 4-2-1...
ANDIAMMO: 2012 500 ABARTH
Acquista il Biglietto; Prendere la Gita! - Hunter S. Thompson
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Re: Carburetor Difference
headder $299
center $138
anza muf $307 =$743
headder wrap $50
high temp silicone spray $20
straps $30-$843
in hind sight i should have got the headder with the o2 hole.and pluged it for a wile.joe
center $138
anza muf $307 =$743
headder wrap $50
high temp silicone spray $20
straps $30-$843
in hind sight i should have got the headder with the o2 hole.and pluged it for a wile.joe
when you do everything correct people arent sure youve done anything at all (futurama)
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Re: Carburetor Difference
My carb is ordered from Mark. He sells the linkage kits and I was thinking about that and seen some just modified the weber linkage. Is the linkage kit really necessary or is the mod OK.
Re: Carburetor Difference
the linkage kit is mainly for 77-79 cars, what year is yours?
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Mine is a 1978. I thought I would try to modify mine with parts from my original carb. Will this be too much work or will it even work?
Re: Carburetor Difference
it's really very easy. Remove the lever with the ball stud from the old carb and install it on the new carb
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Re: Carburetor Difference
"The EMPI is the Weber - produced under license in China."
Are your sure of this?
Are your sure of this?
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I swapped a webber for one of Marks Empi's, Very happy with the results. Mark was very helpfull getting it set up on my car.
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I love a good epistemology exercise...manoa matt wrote:"The EMPI is the Weber - produced under license in China."
Are your sure of this?
Did I sign the contracts or load the trucks? ...No.
What I see on the internet is convincing.
...Yes; I know what it means: Fabbrica Italiana Automobili Torino.
DOLCETTO: 1978 CS1; 10:1, DMS, 4-2-1...
ANDIAMMO: 2012 500 ABARTH
Acquista il Biglietto; Prendere la Gita! - Hunter S. Thompson
DOLCETTO: 1978 CS1; 10:1, DMS, 4-2-1...
ANDIAMMO: 2012 500 ABARTH
Acquista il Biglietto; Prendere la Gita! - Hunter S. Thompson
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Re: Carburetor Difference
Installed carburetor, pretty easy. I can tell the difference in power for sure. I unhooked one set of points but didn't mess with the timing, do I really need to? I'm putting on a new cap,rotor and points/condenser on Monday or Tues.
At least I know its running cool. I changed out my radiator for Marks aluminum radiator and fan this spring. That was nice being in 104 degree weather and stuck in traffic (and running at 190). People were probably wondering why I was smiling baking in the hot sun.
At least I know its running cool. I changed out my radiator for Marks aluminum radiator and fan this spring. That was nice being in 104 degree weather and stuck in traffic (and running at 190). People were probably wondering why I was smiling baking in the hot sun.